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Re: Poor running
Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 10:08
by knackeredMk1
Boyesen reeds will undoubtably be better anyway.
Re: Poor running
Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 10:57
by helisupp
But it ran fine before you rebuilt the bike...............so its not the reeds, too much of a coincidence.
Re: Poor running
Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 11:15
by knackeredMk1
I agree with Mark, but replace the reeds anyway.
Just to get it straight - 'Is the PV servo still messing around?'
Re: Poor running
Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 13:13
by Mudfacetony
helisupp wrote:But it ran fine before you rebuilt the bike...............so its not the reeds, too much of a coincidence.
There were signs of a bit of a problem before the rebuild but nothing like it is now
Re: Poor running
Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 20:57
by Mudfacetony
knackeredMk1 wrote:I agree with Mark, but replace the reeds anyway.
Just to get it straight - 'Is the PV servo still messing around?'
Not now.
Mike thinks similar to you and the dredded ECU is a possible. I spoke to my engine guy today, told him what I had changed and apart from reeds he said the generator or pick up could be on the way out but said if it was the generator it would be more likely a mis fire at high revs. He then suggested if not that, the ECU. ECU off to Mike tomorrow so should hopefully confirm if the ECU is the offending item
Re: Poor running
Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 20:01
by Mudfacetony
Some very swift analysis of my ECU by Mike (MTFB)

and the ECU is OK (phew, that has saved me a few £££).
Re: Poor running
Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 20:39
by fallenmikethebike
It's this midrange misfire that's the odd conundrum.
Unlikely to be fuel related as the main jet was altered and no discernible difference was apparent.
So, it's more than likely one of the following, coil, lead, HT cap, field coils, or pick up coils.
The magneto's not been disturbed of late has it?
Idiot question, you have tried alternative plugs?, sorry.
Bad earth, unlikely.
No chance the needle has got bent whilst out of the carb?
Mike
Re: Poor running
Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 20:52
by Mudfacetony
fallenmikethebike wrote:It's this midrange misfire that's the odd conundrum.
Unlikely to be fuel related as the main jet was altered and no discernible difference was apparent.
So, it's more than likely one of the following, coil, lead, HT cap, field coils, or pick up coils.
The magneto's not been disturbed of late has it?
Idiot question, you have tried alternative plugs?, sorry.
Bad earth, unlikely.
No chance the needle has got bent whilst out of the carb?
Mike
So, it's more than likely one of the following, coil, lead, HT cap, field coils, or pick up coils.
- will change the coil, lead and HT cap this weekend
The magneto's not been disturbed of late has it? - engine got rebuilt over the winter so possible
Idiot question, you have tried alternative plugs?, sorry. - 3 different one's all the same type
Bad earth, unlikely.
No chance the needle has got bent whilst out of the carb? - posible, will change it form a spare Mk2 carb I have
Re: Poor running
Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 12:57
by helisupp
So MFT, in nine days and 2 pages of posts all that has been checked is the ECU.
If the ecu is fine and the servo motor is acting up something does not add up at all.
I would set the servo at halfway and unplug it from loom, run bike and see what is happening. If you are getting a misfire something is wrong with ignition (one thing at a time, easiest first) or an electrical connection, as you have just assembled the bike its probably something you have done to it, it normally is.
If it was ok before, and not now, what have you done.
If it misfires start a list so tail is not being chased, and good for future engine problems for everyone:
1.ECU...is fine and tested
2.Regulator...
3.Plug lead and cap...
4.Coil...
5.Generator....
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Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 13:19
by Mudfacetony
ECU back on, - same problem
HT lead off, cut a bit off the end and changed the plug cap - same problem
Checked the earth on the coil to frame - good but same running problem
Video of the sero running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MGL1woq ... e=youtu.be
video of servo disconneted at half setting
The mis fire can be heard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shBM8NEq ... e=youtu.be
I can't change the coil as the spare I have is a mk2 and they are different.
Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 13:33
by knackeredMk1
I can send you a coil to check if you return it.
Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 13:51
by helisupp
I have not seen you post that the voltage regulator is working correctly. Third time asking.......

Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 14:22
by Mudfacetony
helisupp wrote:I have not seen you post that the voltage regulator is working correctly. Third time asking.......

Can't see this a being problem, then again, eletrics are not my strong point
Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 14:23
by Mudfacetony
knackeredMk1 wrote:I can send you a coil to check if you return it.
PM sent
Re: Poor running
Posted: 24 Mar 2013, 16:07
by fallenmikethebike
The expansion pipe hasn't acquired a new dent lately has it? Or the exhaust system altered in some manner?
Mike