In this game, numbers matter, if the only objection letter comes from a vested interest organisation, it's ignored or classed as a single objection.
We know this because we lost a stunning river crossing in Hampshire due to a mix up there was only 2 objections, one being the TRF.
It is unfortunatly the case that we have to suffer for our art, as it were.
It takes but a couple of minutes to cut and paste an objection letter to bespoke it as an individuals objection.
It can be this simple, as a legal and responsible Trail Bike Rider I would like to object to the proposed closures of Byways in the Peaks Parks, there job done.
Always nice to engross the point, but not strictly required .Another point on the anti closure list.
I don't expect to win every battle, but if you don't even bother lifting up your sword, you will lose every time, no one else will fight on our behalf, we do not have rich backers, like some.
Mike

We dont hear of the antis having a "mix-up" we are renowned for them,enthusiastic is great ,incompetant is not

garyd wrote:We dont hear of the antis having a "mix-up" we are renowned for them,enthusiastic is great ,incompetant is not

Really, well if you read the small print of their [GL£AM] claims prior to NERCa, they thought they had captured all the "White roads and UCRs as well RUPPS, and were mad enough to eat their young when they found out this was not the case on that occasion.
Or when consolidated effort by many saved the complex of lanes around Stonehenge.
For a small mostly volunteer force the TRF punch well above their collective weight.
Mike

Mike im with you all the way but you are outnumbered and out witted,just look how many on this one site alone havent even responded to your call to arms?? where are they all ?,not even on ride outs most of em!good luck and ill remind you ill be riding long after youve all sold up or think back on the times you had riding this lane n that lane,cause out on my own ill be invisible

garyd wrote:Mike im with you all the way but you are outnumbered and out witted,just look how many on this one site alone havent even responded to your call to arms?? where are they all ?,not even on ride outs most of em!good luck and ill remind you ill be riding long after youve all sold up or think back on the times you had riding this lane n that lane,cause out on my own ill be invisible

or a sitting duck

Yes Trev,there is that

If people do nothing else just send a quick e mail to the consultation on Long Causaway and Roych as listed in the copy and paste below.
As Mike says numbers count in this type of thing.
Some time ago the Isle Of Man had a web poll on vehicle rights. There was a huge majority for maintaining Vehicle rights.
Only 12 people objected to lanes being closed in the Yorkshire dales, 42 people wrote in favor of closing them. It should have been so easy to have a resounding no to the closure but .....
instead some insist that the TRF (which I now believe stands for Some Other C+nt) should do something.

AVE THE BEST LANES IN THE PEAK DISTRICT FOR ALL TO USE

The Trail Riders Fellowship is asking countryside lovers, riders and drivers to protest against plans by the Peak District National Park Authority to close 25 of the finest old roads in the Peak District to motor vehicles for ever.
A consultation has opened on the first two routes, Long Causeway (a vehicular route between Redmires and Hathersage) and the Roych, an ancient road which is misleadingly described by the PDNPA as being part of the Pennine Bridleway for use by horse riders, walkers and cyclists, when it is in fact a route with acknowledged full vehicular rights.
We need all motorcyclists and 4x4 drivers to take part in the consultation, no matter what part of the world they come from. Just email a few simple comments to the PDNPA before 2 November 2012 to:
Both [email protected] and [email protected]

For maximum effectiveness please keep your comments brief but please include the following: "The action by the Peak District National Park Authority to attempt to manage legal recreational vehicle use by closing rights of way and unsealed lanes is highly discriminatory to one minority group of users and visitors. This is directly against the Park’s own strategy of welcoming all users to enjoy diverse recreational activities."
You could also question whether spending, as they plan £100,000 on banning us is sensible, or whether the cash could be better invested in maintaining the routes for all to use. The National Park spends a fortune repairing paths that have been worn out by walkers.
Remember that hundreds of trail riders gave up their bank holiday to protest against this: an action that was widely reported in the media. Now it’s your turn to show your support, so please take a few minutes to send an email.
You can find out more about the NPA’s plans at http://www.peakdistrict.gov.uk/

garyd wrote:Mike im with you all the way but you are outnumbered and out witted,just look how many on this one site alone havent even responded to your call to arms?? where are they all ?,not even on ride outs most of em!good luck and ill remind you ill be riding long after youve all sold up or think back on the times you had riding this lane n that lane,cause out on my own ill be invisible

I'm down South working hard most weekends and would be there if i could. We've got the New Forest National Park down here and they're doing their best to ruin that, mountain biking on marked trails only, dogs on leads due to nesting birds, 40mph blanket speed limit that catches more locals than tourists, don't even think about trail riding - or enjoying yourself.
Good luck to anyone that goes, I hope you're successful.
Andy

Eddie Evans wrote:If people do nothing else just send a quick e mail to the consultation on Long Causaway and Roych as listed in the copy and paste below.
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ok done.